92: Play & Rest & Why They're Not Stupid 10.03.25

This week on the show, we talk about play and rest and how they’re kind of important parts to our creative practice. We talk about giving our minds a rest and letting our bodies take the wheel by choosing low-stakes experiments (waste the page) to loosen perfectionism. On the rest side, we talk about what it is (choice) and isn’t (doomscrolling).

We’re getting a little rebellious with this one—and perhaps even a tad wasteful *gasp*!


References:

  • Heartburn - novel by Nora Ephron, narrated by Meryl Streep

TIMECODES
0:00 - Intro
2:04 - Get your “frisson”
8:15 - Dance as play
12:16 - Resistance to play
18:13 - When did we stop playing?
29:49 - Rest is radical