17: Is That All There Is? 01.12.24

Emily as Glinda in The Wizard of Oz, ~2008


Today on Honestly, Dear Listener, we trot down the yellow brick road of our dreams and delve into the confusion and disillusionment that happens when we finally get what we want, peering behind the curtain and finding ourselves asking, “Is that all there is?” We’re not just tackling the Wizard of Oz’s famous quartet’s search for heart, brains, courage, and home—but also how that metaphoric journey ties into our own quest for creative identity and worth in our own lives. We’ll also take a good look at those poppy fields of life, touching on darker themes of depression and the traps that can stall our journey.

But before we go there, we talk all about Carrie’s recent tubal ligation and about how women’s bodies *say it with us* ARE 👏 NOT 👏 shameful 👏. So why don’t we feel like we can talk about them freely—> all this and more as we delve into another episode of Honestly, Dear Listener.